Form: 10KSB

Optional form for annual and transition reports of small business issuers [Section 13 or 15(d), not S-B Item 405]

January 7, 2005

SECRETARY'S CERTIFICATE - MARY HETHEY

Published on January 7, 2005



EXHIBIT 99.4
SECRETARY TREASURER'S CERTIFICATION

CERTIFICATE PURSUANT TO
18 U.S.C. SECTION 1350
AS ADOPTED PURSUANT TO
SECTION 906 OF THE SARBANES-OXLEY ACT OF 2002


In connection with the Annual Report on the Form 10-KSB of Visualant,
Incorporated for the year ended September 30, 2004, as filed with the Securities
and Exchange Commission on the date hereof (the "Report"), I, Mary M. Hethey,
Chief Financial Officer and Secretary Treasurer, certify, pursuant to 18 U.S.C.
Section 1350, as adopted pursuant to Section 906 of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of
2002, that, to the best of my knowledge and belief:

1. The Annual Report fully complies with the requirements of Section 13 (a)
or 15 (d) of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934, as amended; and

2. The information contained in this Annual Report fairly presents, in all
material respects, the financial condition and results of operation of the
Company.



Date: January 7, 2005
/s/ "Mary M. Hethey"
Mary M. Hethey
Chief Financial Officer and Secretary
Treasurer